Palin has friend on IOP
Woman knew famous Alaskan in municipal politics
The Post and Courier
Thursday, September 4, 2008
Brad Nettles The Post and Courier
Isle of Palms resident LaVerne Smith, who has served on the Nome (Alaska) City Council, is a friend of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, running mate of Republican Sen. John McCain.
When LaVerne Smith of the Isle of Palms first heard about Republican presidential nominee John McCain's running mate, she was excited because the nation could elect its first female vice president. But she also was excited because that pick — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin — is an old friend. "When I learned the news, I said, 'Wow.' I'm probably going to go over to the dark side and vote for McCain," said Smith, a former Nome City Council member who conversed with Palin for years during Alaska Municipal League meetings. Palin served as a council member and mayor in Wasilla, Alaska, before being elected governor. "She (Palin) was a very bright woman. I was very impressed with her organizational skills, and she has a great sense of humor," said Smith, who spends about nine months a year at her Isle of Palms home and three months in Alaska, where her husband Don works as a fishing guide. Smith said she and Palin represented similar-size cities with similar issues, such as keeping property taxes low, improving transportation and finding more money for education. Smith said she didn't agree with all of Palin's positions, and Smith didn't return to Alaska this year to vote in its caucus. Smith said she would have supported U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton in the Democratic race and is disappointed in how Sen. Barack Obama's campaign treated her. "I think that Obama made a big, big boo-boo and McCain really jumped on it and said, 'Here is a woman with the highest approval rating in the country. She's got everything we're looking for.' "
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Posted by CharlestonJim on September 4, 2008 at 1:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Palin does have appeal. I am not a rep or dem really, but I do vote, everytime. I must say Palin speaks to people who don't live in NY, Washington, LA, or San Fran. It is rather refreshing.
Posted by Riptide on September 4, 2008 at 5:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
After listening to Sarah Palin acceptance speech last night, I figure the liberal elite will have blood shooting out of their eyes this morning. She definitely has a connection with the average American, you know the ones that cling to religion and their guns. The liberal hate machine, the Hollywood crowd, and the liberal media will be working overtime trying to destroy this woman and her family. Liberals… what a bunch of goofballs.
Posted by tc1 on September 4, 2008 at 6:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I thought the bridge to nowhere was in her favor. She said they didn't need it and stood up to Rep Stevens of her own party/state. Is there a negative to this I missed? there is so much hitting the fan right now that is easy to miss something.
Posted by Riptide on September 4, 2008 at 6:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Comrade Johnq2...
I know you can’t wait to pull that Mao jacket and the little red book out of the closet but you just have to wait until the American people have made up their minds who they want to lead this country. The Obama bin Biden ticket still has to convince the American people that big government socialism is the wave of the future especially with all the failures in the past.
Posted by hairy1663 on September 4, 2008 at 6:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Johnq2
But I guess for you having a racist anti-American preacher & a terrorist as friends is just fine.
Posted by teeitup on September 4, 2008 at 7:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Now, johnq, take your medication and crawl back under your rock.
Posted by STREETLAW on September 4, 2008 at 7:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank God she has a friend in the IOP. She won't find many in the liberal press and media. Those folks lost their moral compass as the flower children of the 60's and 70's moved into journalism. Now the pressure of daily deadlines and the fierce competition for the advertising bucks have them all into booze and other drugs to the point they can't think straight, much less be fair.
Posted by theronce on September 4, 2008 at 7:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
johnq, in case you haven't noticed, Islam started a war, and we just stood up.
Posted by cwmcpa on September 4, 2008 at 7:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Palin has friends like this lady from Isle of Palms, Obama has friends in Chicago like Ayers and Rezko. I am sure that we will soon hear that Palin and Timothy McVeigh were distant cousins, that Palin and Eric Rudolph are fellow hunters. It does not matter if it is true or not as long as it is negative it will give Johnq2 a brief high and a tingle in his leg.
Posted by jk_newhard on September 4, 2008 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Re the "Bridge to Nowhere":
- she was for it before she was against it (day-to-day realities of politics sometimes requires changes of position. No judgment intended.)
- Alaska kept the money
Posted by sarahlyn1 on September 4, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
JohnQ, I agree with you.
She can insult Obama and the rest of the Democrats. Ooooh, scary. *eye roll*
What is her platform? Why didn't she address anything that McBush wants to do for our country if he should win this election?
I don't recall hearing a lot of Repub bashing in any of the speeches given last week at the DNC. A few minor jabs, but it seems like the Republicans are a little worried since ALL of the speakers at the RNC have engaged in an "attack the Dems" stance in their speeches.
Obama-Biden '08
Posted by ConcernedinCHS on September 4, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Quoting sarahlyn1
"I don't recall hearing a lot of Repub bashing in any of the speeches given last week at the DNC"
You don't have a very good recall or you simply weren't watching last week.
Posted by dereksmith on September 4, 2008 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)
..."attack the dems".
HELLO!!!! IT'S REPUBLICANS VS DEMS IN A NATIONAL ELECTION! What are the speakers supposed to talk about? The weather?!!! Or maybe how we're going to chase OBL into the caves he's hiding in (which means the dems plan on invading Pakistan).
Posted by Larz13 on September 4, 2008 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Quoting sarahlyn1
"I don't recall hearing a lot of Repub bashing in any of the speeches given last week at the DNC"
Were you freakin' on dope or jabbing yourself?
Posted by sarahlyn1 on September 4, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
No, I watched nearly all of it, and like I said beyond a few minor jabs at McCain and the current administration, their entire speeches weren't based on attacking the conservatives, but instead plans on change and hope for our future.
dereksmith, yes it's Dems vs. Repubs, however they've said nothing of substance on the issues so far at the RNC.
What are their plans for healthcare? The economy? Energy alternatives? Oh, that's right. "Drill, baby, drill".
Posted by tc1 on September 4, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by jk_newhard on September 4, 2008 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Re the "Bridge to Nowhere":
- she was for it before she was against it (day-to-day realities of politics sometimes requires changes of position. No judgment intended.)
- Alaska kept the money
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Can you explain further?
Posted by spacewalker on September 4, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
How can Palin lead a country, when she can't control whats going on in her on household. Teenage pregnancy, interferring with the exbrother-in-law's job. She has too many issues she cant solve on her own let alone lead a country. What's going to happen if she gets to the white house. The staff did'nt prepare her favorite meal sh's gonna fire them because she has the power to do so? The fakeness of her speech last night was unreal!!!!
Obama/Biden 08 It shall happen!
Posted by tc1 on September 4, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
cwmcpa,
You realize you just started two more worldwide rumors? Or maybe they are already there. :)
Posted by spacewalker on September 4, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
So I quess all of that gives Palin the right to use her power to get someone fired and to be so undercover about it.(Okay) I agree he should have been fired however he had someone of whom he reported who would have fired him had the ex wife reported it. But no, go to the sister with power and she can have it done.(It's be nice to the Palin family or you're ousted and black balled. I bet that daughter's baby daddy was told you better marry or else. Quess what Palins under investigation as well in case didnt know. Like I said, Obama/Biden 08 It shall happen!
Posted by Nonsense on September 4, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You dems loved ole Bill Clinton and he couldn't even control his own zipper!!!!
Posted by spacewalker on September 4, 2008 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You Repubs love ole George Bush and he can't control the country!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Nonsense on September 4, 2008 at 10:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
George Bush has a better approval rating than the Democratic Congress!!!!
Posted by spacewalker on September 4, 2008 at 10:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Look Nonsense - My opinion is what it is and so is yours. I dont have time to go back and forth with you about the NONSENSE of George Bush. I have a life obviously you dont. I've stated my comments, I'm done, now I'm gone.Peace! You could'nt have chosen a better screen name! Obama/Biden 08!!! It shall happen!
Posted by ConcernedinCHS on September 4, 2008 at 10:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
South Carolina was one of only six states to vote for Barry Goldwater in 1964 and has voted Republican since, except in 1976 when it voted for fellow southerner Jimmy Carter. In 2004, George W. Bush handily defeated John Kerry 58% to 41%.
You can talk smack about Bush / McCain all you want but in the end SC is a red state for McCain and Palin.
Posted by sarahlyn1 on September 4, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Coldbeer, wow, thank you for insulting my intelligence! It makes you seem SO smart & right! I mean, what was I thinking, voting for Obama?
With your apparent knowledge of the IQs of all Democrats, maybe you should start a campaign against us?
Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 4, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
2 Things about Palin that I need cleared up, please.
1. How can people say not to politicize her teenage daughter's unwed preganancy. But can politicize her choosing to have a Downs Syndrome baby? I think her (entire) family should be left out of the spotlight.
2. How does seeing a woman that could be the neighbor-next-door, an everyday person, appeal as the Vice President? I know I wouldn't want my neighbor in the White House.
Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 4, 2008 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Palin has a friend in IOP,
Barack has a friend in Me!
Posted by Marianne0558 on September 4, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Palin's speech FULL OF LIES!!!!
PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending … and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."
THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."
PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate."
THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.
PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."
THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.
Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.
He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.
Posted by Marianne0558 on September 4, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The AP report also showed how Palin's champions have exaggerated the Alaskan governor's 'acheivements':
MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply … She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.
THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.
MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. … She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.
THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.
FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."
THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.
FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."
THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.
Posted by hightide on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh joy! Palin has a friend in the Lowcountry (insert rolling eyes and who cares here)
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Posted by eyfigueroa on September 4, 2008 at 10:50 a.m.
I guess I just get a bad vibe from her, especially when she stood in front of the world and declared her “joy” in becoming a grandmother. As a mother of two teenaged girls I find nothing joyous in an unmarried 17 year old being pregnant. I was aghast at her attitude towards this situation. I understand that the über conservatives want to revel in the fact that the child didn’t have an abortion. I get that. I even understand how people would be happy that this child and the boy who got her will eventually marry. What I don’t understand how these same conservative pundits assailed Jaime Spears (who by the way did the exact same thing but was only several months younger) calling her and her family the poster children for the degradation of the American family and then turn around and applaud Bristol Palin. I find that disingenuous and hypocritical. If either of my daughters came home pregnant there would be no joy. I would be angered and embarrassed if not ashamed. I would have to look at myself as a mother to see what if anything did I do or didn’t do to cause this. I certainly wouldn’t drag her out on the national stage with a big belly holding her high school drop-out boyfriend’s/fiancée’s hand. When she didn’t say to the American public how disappointed she was of her daughter, how she didn’t raise her to do what she did, yet rail against Dems for their lack of moral turpitude, I found that disturbing. For all of her bravado and her very real successes as Governor I have to wonder about her personal behaviors. (Just as I take issue with many of the decisions of Obama).
Love McCain, her not so much. I don’t want or need a female VEEP so much that she should have been picked. The choice of Palin was a calculated pandering for the moderate left and female vote. McCain could have done far better.
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Amen to that! It's insulting that McSame picked Palin thinking that he could pick up some of Hillary's votes. Hillary's supporters may be upset that Obama got the nomination, but not upset enough to change parties.
Palin may have executive experience, but she also has experience in a group who wanted to make Alaska independent from the United States of America. Now that's patriotism!
Posted by hightide on September 4, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why would she be in a party that she didn't agree with?
Posted by tc1 on September 4, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Marianne0558,
Doing hurricane prep so don't have time to play. But, seriously, that kind of post can lead to some good discussion. Hate to admit it, and would argue some, but Good post.
Posted by RTC on September 4, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It never matters who is running for any office, as the rumors will fly, and the dirty deeds will be dug up.
Politicians are not above reproach. They are human beings just like the rest of us. We all have our skeletons, and the politicos are no exception.
It is time to put aside all of the nitpicking and concentrate on what is right for our country.
I find it a contradiction of terms to call our country the United States of America, when how can a country ever be united when there is party division.
Do away with the parties, and start looking at the candidates running for office on an individual basis and not one based on party affiliation.
I, for one, am sick to death of all of the bickering and name calling.
We need to band together and start acting like a unified nation.
Posted by ConcernedinCHS on September 4, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
South Carolina was one of only six states to vote for Barry Goldwater in 1964 and has voted Republican since, except in 1976 when it voted for fellow southerner Jimmy Carter. In 2004, George W. Bush handily defeated John Kerry 58% to 41%.
You can talk smack about Bush / McCain all you want but in the end SC is a red state for McCain and Palin.
Did this comment really warrant removal????? Or is it just too upsetting because it's true.
Posted by tc1 on September 4, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Why would she be in a party that she didn't agree with?"
For the same reason conservatives go republican. They represent more of their beliefs and can get elected. I confess to electing Clinton by voting for Perot :(
Posted by Lovely_One on September 4, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Eyfig, I posted about the pregancy on the other Palin board. I agree with what you said. It is crazy that they are "explaining this away". I also mentioned Maria Goodloe-Johnson and no one answered me about her. Go figure.
Posted by cwmcpa on September 4, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Marianne0558
Wow did you type all of that or just copy and paste from the Obama campaign website. For someone who does not have any experience you sure have accumulated a mighty wordy resume for this lady.
Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 4, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)
Palin's husband, not her, was in the Alaska Independence Party.
http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/0903...
from Juneau paper.
Posted by dereksmith on September 4, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Does anyone know Obama's (or the dems) stance on terrorism?
Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 4, 2008 at 12:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Obama wants to defeat all threats against America. He wants to hunt down and kill Osama bin Laden, the mastermind behind 9/11.
Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 4, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Jane,
You want to go in with me on a super plan that ends with you and him, and me and her, together? LOLOLOL :)
Posted by hightide on September 4, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Everyone has their skeletons, that's for sure.
It's too bad Ron Paul's not on the ticket.
It's also time for change. Nothing will change if we elect McSame and his pretty running mate.
Posted by hightide on September 4, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If Palin were a democrat, the spotlight would be glaring 10 times more in Bristol's face. Imagine if Obama had a pregnant teenage daughter. Boy oh boy would Rush, Hannity and all the other neocon hypocrites have a heyday with that!
Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 4, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yea, I'm no Todd Palin, either!
But, with her Alaskan accent, I could sit and listen to her read a phone book!
Posted by hightide on September 4, 2008 at 12:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
How about Fox News for unbiased reporting?
Does that make sense?
Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 4, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
yes,
but does it make it right, to air those opinion shows when the channel's mantra is "Fair & Balanced?"
Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 4, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't mind McCain/Palin, they won't get my vote, but they'll be better than W.
BUT, I think it is a little strange for McCain to pick her because:
McCain's strongest argument against Obama was lack of experience, then he chooses this small town mayor, small state governor, who hasn't been in office more than 2 years.
McCain also coined Obama's popularity as a celebrity, but, here she is on all these entertainment magazine covers that the celebrities are on.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz...
JMO
Posted by noname on September 4, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
McCain could'nt control his zipper either! Everyone knows Cindy (the botox junkie/cash cow) was his mistress when he was married to his first wife.
Posted by abitskeptical on September 4, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am a registered Independent,libertarian in my leanings. Still have the Ron Paul bumper stickers on the cars.
I do not know if this matters, but didn't Palen come out with the info about her daughter in response to the rumor blogs that she had covered for her daughter & the child she claimed as her & her husband's 5th was, in truth, her daughter's?
I am not sure what else she could have done which would have "covered" all aspects of this situation. I thought her statement covered the matter appropriately & simply. Perhaps she could have said things a little differently. But that might have required a longer statement.
When I heard her statement on the matter, I certainly assumed there had been much behind the scenes discussion with her daughter & boyfriend. I do not believe I have any right to know anything about that discussion. I did not get the impression that this was great & tremendously wonderful news she was imparting.
I am not sure how her daughter making a decision to engage in behavior which clearly went against all that she had been taught & seen lived out in her parents makes Palen or her supporters hypocrites. I do not see where she or anyone else has indicated that this situation is honky dory, but rather that they are making the best of it.
In reference to Palen stating that she is looking forward to being a grandmother, it is a joy etc, perhaps she made those statements for the benefit of her future grandchild, who one day will be able to read these public statements & news blips, etc.
Posted by coolfreaknbeans on September 4, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The way Palin is being treated is ridiculous in this day and age.Why are liberals questioning her ability to lead because she has 5 kids?Nancy Pelosi has 5 kids.As soon as her speech was over,liberals said yeah well someone wrote it for her.Well duh.Yet O'Bama the Amazing has a good speech and he's called the greatest orator of our time.WTH?Liberals are railing her for her daughters pregnancy and husbands ancient DUI.Guess what Obama was doing when he was 17?I'll fill you in...He was snorting cocaine and doing other drugs as well as drinking large amounts of beer.Where are the blazing headlines calling him a reformed drug addict?To further show the media bias-remember when Bill Clinton caught hell for trying weed in college and "not inhaling"?Yet O'Bama is celebrated for cocaine use and speech delivery.
Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 4, 2008 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
WHAT? Todd Palin was arrested for a DUI?!
and since when is Obama Irish? LOL
Posted by coolfreaknbeans on September 4, 2008 at 2:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yep Todd Palin got a DUI approx. 20 years ago.And O'bama has repeatedly talked and written about his use/overuse of drugs and alcohol.
Posted by BravesFan on September 4, 2008 at 2:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I hope the people that plan on voting for Barack Hussein Obama leave their heads up their butts. Since they can't see the ticket, maybe we'll get lucky and they actually vote for the correct team.
Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 4, 2008 at 2:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I love how the Republicans use Barack's middle name of Hussein, thinking that ALL people with this name is evil. Just like you think ALL women will vote Palin now that Hillary is out. You're not fooling anybody.
Obama/Biden '08!
Posted by mkris on September 4, 2008 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
RE: "South Carolina was one of only six states to vote for Barry Goldwater in 1964 and has voted Republican since, except in 1976 when it voted for fellow southerner Jimmy Carter. In 2004, George W. Bush handily defeated John Kerry 58% to 41%.You can talk smack about Bush / McCain all you want but in the end SC is a red state for McCain and Palin."
Absolutely right. South Carolina is a red state. That is why next year the state legislature is proposing a bill to change the state motto. The new South Carolina Motto will be: THANK GOD FOR MISSISSIPPI, OTHERWISE WE'D BE LAST AT EVERTHING.
Posted by GG on September 4, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Marianne0558's comment was just a cut and paste from a liberal article on YAHOO. No great awareness there.
And the Q boy is playing with his Google again.
Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 4, 2008 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
GG
thems the facts
Posted by ConcernedinCHS on September 4, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
RE: "Absolutely right. South Carolina is a red state. That is why next year the state legislature is proposing a bill to change the state motto. The new South Carolina Motto will be: THANK GOD FOR MISSISSIPPI, OTHERWISE WE'D BE LAST AT EVERTHING."
OK? Very insightful. Your comment still doesn't change the fact that SC will vote republican in November. They (McCain and Palin) will get ALL of the electoral votes. So go ahead and vote for Obama / Biden your vote will count for nothing.
Posted by BravesFan on September 4, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Keep drinking the kool-aid Blah. Got your purple blanket and Nikes yet?
Posted by noname on September 4, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Not big fan of either candidate. Heck, I would have loved to see Hillary in the White House once more, this time as the president, not the first lady of course.
At any rate, each party will continue to backstab the other to no end. Like most politicians, they will tell us just about anything to get our votes. Once, they have been appointed, do you really think the change will come about soon? Heck no! Thanks to George Bush, this country has really been a snowball going downhill ever since! It will surely take some time to see the results of either party.
With the war in Iraq, families losing their homes, gas at almost four bucks a gallon, unaffordable healthcare, and the economy is at its all time low, it will interested to see just how many of you will be happy with the new commander in chief.
Either way, history has been made in 2008
Posted by ForPnC on September 4, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Not getting my vote.
Posted by noname on September 4, 2008 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Lovely-One, you are exactly right about how the public is explaining this one away regarding Sarah Palin’s daughter.
When it was discovered that Dr. Maria Goodloe-Johnson was unmarried and with child, this board lit up like a damn Christmas tree!
Some parents even demanded her resignation! Mind you, Dr. Goodloe-Johnson was an educated woman with several PhD’s who could very well afford to care for her unborn child without the help of the taxpayers, but noooooooooo, some claimed that she was not a good role model to their children
Yet, here’s a mother who is running for VP, who thinks that being a grandmother to a child born out of wedlock to her daughter, a high school senior, at 17 year old and a high school drop out is just “Joy”
Alot of you are nothing more than a bunch of freaking hypocrites!!!!!!
Posted by abitskeptical on September 4, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Comparing MGJ & her situation w/ Bristol Palin is hilarious. What a stretch.
Why don't you tell us all, noname, what Sarah Palin SHOULD have said, I mean, in your opinion.
Posted by tc1 on September 4, 2008 at 4:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The question is valid. but comparing the head of the school system to a 17 year old is not. Nor am I making excuses for the 17 yr old. Her parents are dealing with reality and so will the girl now and conservatives will vote against socialism and for a helluva strong woman! Hmmmmmmmm, we weren't supposed to vote for women were we? Are we excited? YES!
Posted by RTC on September 4, 2008 at 4:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Overall, this forum has been a most educating and lively, but polite, discussion today.
It is always interesting to read people's different points of view on a subject, and quite refreshing to see comments that are not directed at individuals in a negative manner.
Good job, folks!
Posted by tc1 on September 4, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
+1 on RTC comment.
Posted by blackwoman on September 4, 2008 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
After McCain's reckless choice and after having heard Mrs. "PitBull" Palin speak [where she refered to herself as a pitbull], I made a monetary contribution to the Obama campaign. The last thing out counrty needs now is another Bush repeat and more divisiveness. We are in a major recession and there is hardly a middle class anymore. Think about your childrens'and grandchildrens' future. We had 1 Billion in aid to give to Georgia? Could that 1 billion dollars have been better spent in the USA?
Posted by Riptide on September 4, 2008 at 10:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
John_Doe45...
Interesting post and link.
Posted by BravesFan on September 4, 2008 at 10:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
All I hear from black people is "we need change". What is so terrible about your life that requires change?
Posted by CharlestonJim on September 5, 2008 at 1:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I find it amusing that people here try to change the minds of other people posting in discussion boards.
If you are reading the news on the internet and bother to post a comment, you are not usually changing your mind.
The post you see either way that say "wow, i didnt know McCain beat baby seals to death, but after watching MSNBC I feel hatred towards the man. I am glad I did not vote for him".... are BS. We are all set in our ways. Lets just have actual converations about issues.
Posted by Lovely_One on September 5, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
We are not in a recession. We haven't had two consecutive periods of negative growth. We may have slow growth, but not no growth.
Posted by blackwoman on September 7, 2008 at 9:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
We are now in a recession . . . when the government takes over half the mortgages in the US to prevent a calamity it is called a RECESSION.Time to wake up and face reality.