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Boy, 15, accused of raping girl on school bus

The Post and Courier
Friday, August 29, 2008


A 15-year-old James Island Middle School student is accused of raping a 12-year-old classmate on a bus after school in December.

Both are special-needs students, according to the Charleston County School District.

The older, male student, who told investigators he did not have sex with the girl, was arrested in July and charged with criminal sexual conduct with a minor, a police report said. He remained at a county juvenile detention center Thursday and has been expelled from school, authorities said.

The girl did not tell police about the incident until May, when she reported that the boy made more advances toward her, a police report said. It said she had been too scared to tell anyone.

The girl said that while on the bus in December, the boy pushed her against a window and raped her, the report said. It said she tried to push him away but that he was too strong. The boy threatened to beat her if she told, the report said.

The boy told investigators that he didn't have sex with the girl and is not sexually active, the report said.

The report also said he told them that the girl liked him but that he didn't like her and that she made fun of him and his friends on the bus.

Schools Superintendent Nancy McGinley said another incident between the two students was reported in October.

A student on the bus told the bus driver there was some "inappropriate activity," but when schools officials asked the girl about it, she denied it, McGinley said.

"She said nothing happened," the superintendent said.







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This article has  53 comment(s)

Posted by CedarPosts on August 29, 2008 at 3:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My goodness this is a poorly writen story! Takes every rule of journalism and tosses it out the window.

More Coffee for Ms. Parks please.



Posted by jca on August 29, 2008 at 6:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

this is poorly written because its fake and lies

special needs buses have at least 2 adults on it the driver and an aid the aid sits in the rear of the bus to watch all the kids

boys on one side girls on the other.

someone would have heard her scream or saw something as special needs kids ride the smallest buses.
only has about 6 rows of seats

her parents if there even was a girl need to sit down and teach her what to do in this time of manner. my guess since this happened nearly a year ago is that she offered it he took it someone else found out and now shes hollering rape which it still is since the age of consent for girls is 14 and boys its sixteen neither could consent

i dont believe this story because my mother used to be an aid on a special needs bus



Posted by moonpie on August 29, 2008 at 6:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

jca seems to know more about CCSD policy and procedure than who ever wrote this story. I read and wondered did he or did he not and when finished I still don't have a clue.

This could explain how its day 4 of the democratic convention and messiah Obama spoke last night and there still is no story in the paper. This paper is like a local small town news paper, like the Berkley democrat, GC Gazette or Summerville journal, local only.



Posted by abitskeptical on August 29, 2008 at 7:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

moonpie-there is a box on the right side of the screen which says ELECTION COVERAGE...



Posted by commonsence on August 29, 2008 at 7:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Most special needs children do not ride the "short bus." This could certainly be true and needs to be investigated. My problem is with the CCSD nonresponse, which was "she said nothing happened, so that's it." The news reported that they didn't even notify the parents of the incident until months later. Lawyers, get in line...



Posted by jeff61 on August 29, 2008 at 7:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Looks like James Island is trying to compete with Wando



Posted by charlene68 on August 29, 2008 at 7:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This story is poorly written... it looks like maybe the special needs child wrote it . sorry for the sarcasm!!! i cant believe rape went on and nobody, not even the bus driver saw it !!! That is crazy



Posted by suec on August 29, 2008 at 7:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I you want to read all about Messiah Barrack, go to CNN.
Nothing irks me nmore than watching the "local" news and instead I get 15 minutes of national news. Especially when the national news either just went off or is coming on next.



Posted by Canadian_THGLIFE on August 29, 2008 at 7:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The article says they were special needs students, not that they were on a special needs bus. Do these necessarily correlate?
Even assuming they were on a normal bus, how clueless is the bus driver in this situation. The "rape" occurred near a window, which means it was in plain view of the driver. To be fair though, the driver was probably too busy making sure the bus didn't catch fire.
My gut says the girl is crying wolf but this is not exactly a brain buster case. It'll get sorted out; it's just too bad the guy will live with this forever, no matter the outcome.



Posted by Tammie on August 29, 2008 at 7:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In the words of the Geico caveman as it relates to this article..."Uhhh...what?"



Posted by DoaMM on August 29, 2008 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You also have to understand that "special needs" includes ADD these days.

"I don't like you! Ooo! A crayon! Mine!! Mine!! Nice shirt! Lunch is yucky! Give that back! Teacher, I gotta poop!"

Ya know...something like that.



Posted by crankyyankee on August 29, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

An article about special needs students written by a special needs reporter!



Posted by charlestonpride on August 29, 2008 at 8:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There are not aids on every bus. Only when a specific child needs an aid. Also, not all special needs kids have to ride a "short bus". I think Nadine missed the "short bus" on the day they taught writing skills.



Posted by whatelseisthere on August 29, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I was shocked to read it and was hoping to see something with more substance here. But not yet. Will someone who knows the facts please weigh in? It's kind of hard to believe that a rape happened on a school bus, presumably with other students nearby, and no other student ever said anything to anyone.......



Posted by zoomru on August 29, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Uh..OH !!??

Talk about busses being on ..FIRE ??!!

I smell a LAWYER fest bonanza at OUR expense !!!

Wallets will be burning on this...hold up!



Posted by usna04 on August 29, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is very sad...but it makes me question.



Posted by RTC on August 29, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What is wrong with this website this morning? You can't read most of the articles. It takes you to ads.
This story is way off track. Why is an incident that supposedly happened last year just making the news?
If the girl told in May, and then boy was arrested in July, then why so late on the reporting?
It is still too early in the morning for this.



Posted by geekboy on August 29, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by moonpie on August 29, 2008 at 6:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This could explain how its day 4 of the democratic convention and messiah Obama spoke last night and there still is no story in the paper. This paper is like a local small town news paper, like the Berkley democrat, GC Gazette or Summerville journal, local only.
*****************************************

Day four of the Democratic Revival and its coronation of Barack HUSSEIN Obama as the Messiah, and moonpie is still whining because it's not listed in LOCAL NEWS.

Why not try going to the main page and turning your head slightly to the right, where you'll see:

Obama embarks on 67-day sprint to election
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/C...

Obama's night
http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/aug/...



Posted by geekboy on August 29, 2008 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Special needs, huh?

Well, it's obvious what his needs were.



Posted by CHRISJIII on August 29, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This story reeks!!!!



Posted by MissPriss on August 29, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good Morning All!

DoaMM you are trippin me out right now. Your in time out for making me choke on my fruit loops! :)

Cypress you would bring the midget porn up before ten o'clock.....lol

It's hard to comment on a very poorly written article...but if the boy did it I hope he gets in major trouble...and if he didn't then I'm sorry his name was dragged through the dirt.



Posted by jca on August 29, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

buses also have cameras all of them.

one on the driver one on the rest of the bus
did the cameras croak that day.

someone said its too early for a mixed up story like this your right and im glad to know im not the only pncs site is going bonkers on



Posted by ChasCarolinaGirl on August 29, 2008 at 9:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why wouldn't the bus driver see something like this? They need to be more aware of what happens on a school bus. A girl getting raped???? come on now ...



Posted by CedarPosts on August 29, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I've seen the short bus with special needs students on board, seems anyone whose not a star student is considered special needs.

Darn bus was out of control, looked like a bunch of lab monkeys of crack if you ask me.



Posted by lou9 on August 29, 2008 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The end of the story says that a student told the bus driver there was some "inappropriate activity". What the hell did the bus driver do about it?



Posted by SCHoser on August 29, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The reporter isn't the only one who lacks in writing skills here...I can't even understand some of the posts! As far as Obama-who cares? This story has NOTHING to do with Obama-Biden whatsoever.
As far as the article is concerned, remember we are talking about special needs children. It is often difficult to get accurate accounts of what they did in the morning, let alone what happened or didn't happen a year ago! Just a shame all the way around.



Posted by jca on August 29, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

in regards to the bus driver they are notorious for ignoring and not knowing whats going on on his/her bus
example first day of the school year my sons driver didnt even know he had my son on his bus.

my son is 5 and was on the bus. instead of watching who was being put on his bus and verifying that they rode his bus he was do who knows what. i asked the teacher the next morning about it she said she spoke to the driver and he said my son was one of his. yet he told me he had no clue my child was on his bus. drivers tend to ignore instead of addressing problems



Posted by charlestonpride on August 29, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No cameras, they are fake cameras to "scare" the kids! What special needs child uses the term "inappropriate activity"?



Posted by Lovely_One on August 29, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"A 15-year-old James Island Middle School student is accused of raping a 12-year-old classmate on a bus after school in December."

I haven't read the comments yet, but I couldn't get past this opening sentence. Why are the 12 year old and 15 year old classmates? That says a lot!



Posted by RTC on August 29, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hello, Lovely. That was a good catch. Why would a child that should be in high school be a classmate of a 12 yr.old?
Special needs indeed.



Posted by DoaMM on August 29, 2008 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry about the fruit loops, MissPriss. I just type the first thing that pops into my head...which is usually rude, crude, socially unacceptable, crass, or extremely cynical.

People these days take life too seriously. I mean, it's not like the retards can do much "love making" with wheelchairs and crutches.

So, they must have the classification of "mentally handicapped" for any of this to be true, hence, the ADD solution I presented above that caused a "fruit loop incident".

Hmmm...that could also be the new title to this article...



Posted by Lovely_One on August 29, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay, maybe if I had read past the first sentence I would have read that they were special needs students. Any who, I used to be a bus aid for the "special needs" buses and none of the buses I aided on were short. That is one misconception. Another is that special needs does not always mean mentally unstable some children are there because they don't know how to behave in school and were sent to alternative classes.

All in all, I don't see how this rape occurred the way it is said and no one saw anything.



Posted by Two_Sheds on August 29, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

LovelyOne, regarding the age discrepancy in the kids:
When I was growing up on James Island, there was this one loser kid who kept failing/being expelled so many times that he was eventually 17 & in 8th grade! He was the only kid we knew who DROVE to middle school, LOL.

Guess where I last saw him? A couple weeks ago in the "Most Wanted" list of photos in the Post & Courier, for strong-armed robbery! Aparently, nothing's changed much since the 80s.



Posted by jca on August 29, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

those cameras are real my sons driver got in trouble last year on his middle school route for not stopping inappropriate behavior

the behavior was seen when ccsd viewed the tapes after a mother complained about her daughter having burns and bruises



Posted by Lovely_One on August 29, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Two_Shed, LMAO @ a Middle Schooler driving himself to school. My mother would have beat the crap out of me and I would never get any driving privileges. That is crazy. But along the same lines, I had a classmate who became my cousin's classmate and my cousin is 4 years younger that I am. They finally kicked him out of school because he was 21 in the 12th grade.



Posted by Lovely_One on August 29, 2008 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey RTC, that just jumped out at me. He should be in the 9th or 10th grade depending on his birth date and he is classmates with a 12 year old middle schooler. That is crazy.



Posted by Two_Sheds on August 29, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

LovelyOne,

His mother never beat the crap out of him...that's why he ended up how he did. My mother would've snatched me bald!

My husband (a teacher at NCHS) just recommended a few kids for expulsion, because they were 18 and have anywhere from 0-4 credits (you need 24 to graduate!). They just weren't going anywhere, except to sit there and waste space. How the hell do you stay in high school for 4 (or more!) years and have only 2 credits?!?!



Posted by Lovely_One on August 29, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OMG...4 years and 2 credits? They were only passing the electives and not all of them at that. I swear the school system needs to start kicking students out that are like that. Recommend them for night school, but don't have them sitting next to my kid who wants to learn but can't because they are being unruly and disruptive or just cannot learn.



Posted by RTC on August 29, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Two_Sheds, I had to laugh at the "snatch you bald" comment. I can't even count the times that I heard that threat along with "knocking my teeth down my throat".
If DSS had ever heard these things then we would have been removed from our homes. Good thing that we didn't even know they existed back then.



Posted by jca on August 29, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

my mother used the same threats along with i brought you in this world and i will take you out



Posted by forget on August 29, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Snatch me baldheaded, knock me into the middle of next week, knock my teeth down my throat, etc. are all classic sayings of my mother. And she wasn't all talk either. Maybe that's why I'm not on the most wanted list. LOL.
Anyway, depending on how "special needs" the 12 yr old girl is, she might not be mentally able to make up a story like this.

Just a thought...



Posted by grannyofseven_2 on August 29, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good morning Lovely_ One, RTC, Tammie, and everyone.
Special needs bus or children could be those that are unruly in school and go to special classes don’t have to be the challenged children.



Posted by MR_PRETTY on August 29, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)

Miss. Parks, please redeem yourself and write a follow up. This does sound like a witch hunt.



Posted by ironhorse on August 29, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"How the hell do you stay in high school for 4 (or more!) years and have only 2 credits?!?!"

Hey, at least they passed PE class (after the fourth try).



Posted by Two_Sheds on August 29, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm going to give Ms. Parks the benefit of the doubt and assume that she was handed the assignment at the last minute, and had to shlep out something--even poorly-written--to make the deadline. I would like to think that, anyway!



Posted by jca on August 29, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

we can hope two sheds



Posted by Lovely_One on August 29, 2008 at 3:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Granny,

It's good to see you. You had us worried for a while. I hope all is well with you. Love and hugs!



Posted by forget on August 29, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good to see you too Lovely. We were all thinking about you and your family.



Posted by Lovely_One on August 29, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey forget,

Thanks. We are okay now. Our main focus is the kids and of course getting the responsible parties behind bars.



Posted by charlestonnative1963 on August 29, 2008 at 11:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just how special needs was this boy. Seems to me this is offered to often as an excuse ...cant learn becasue he is LD, cant behave because he is ED...maybe a spat to his seat of education might cause him to "think" I guess he will get specail treatment as well. Its time to bring back the paddle to CCSD



Posted by Francisco on August 30, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks everyone. Your comments helped me understand what I unfortunately read too early upon awakening and then found it unsatisfying and confusing. This is simply a poorly written story that uncovered more questions than answers...



Posted by halfsheli on August 30, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

not all special needs students ride the short bus with two adults. some ride the bus with the rest of the student population. The special needs bus is for students who need more attention and help in getting around.



Posted by willie08 on August 30, 2008 at 6:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Does this girl even know what rape is?
How is this possible on a bus?
Were they the only ones on it?
If not, why didn't anyone else stop it?
Surely this girl must have been screaming STOP, or RAPE!
Why didn't the bus driver pull over and see what was going on?
Sounds like a bunch of BS.
This little girl's story is poor, not the writer's.




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