Detective's words save a man's life
Charleston officer convinces troubled man not to jump
The Post and Courier
Wednesday, August 6, 2008
Brad Nettles The Post and Courier
A man who threatened to jump from the Ravenel Bridge on Tuesday afternoon is helped back over the fence to safety.
Mic Smith The Post and Courier
Detective Thomas Rivers talked a man out of jumping off the Ravenel Bridge.
The distraught man had a sweaty, right-arm grip on a light pole and his toes were dangerously close to the edge of the Ravenel Bridge. Detective Thomas Rivers stood on the pedestrian path about 10 feet away, knowing he was the last crack at this stranger's survival. "I really had a sick, sick feeling in my stomach this guy was going," Rivers said. Rivers is not trained as a crisis counselor, but he happened to be the Charleston police officer closest to the bridge at 2:07 p.m. Tuesday when dispatchers put out the call of a possible jumper. According to newspaper records, four people have jumped from the new bridge and only one survived. The subject of Tuesday's call, a 49-year-old North Charleston man, had minutes earlier leapt in front of a woman on the path and asked if she had a cell phone. His unshaven face, scraggly, long hair, cut-off cargo shorts and half-unbuttoned shirt made her uneasy. "Hey, do you have a phone?" he asked again. "Call 911. I'm going to kill myself." Rivers pulled up to see the man standing on the path adjacent to traffic going to Mount Pleasant. He was near the last diamond, holding onto the fence, but was looking over into the water about 130 feet below. "About the time I got out of my car, he started climbing over," Rivers said. Rivers kept some distance while trying to get close enough to start a conversation. He listened as the man talked about being out of work for months. He said he just caused problems for everyone. He talked about his family and described how he'd tried to arrange to donate his organs after his death. Rivers tried to persuade the man not to leave his family. He talked about religion. Rivers, who works in plain clothes because he's assigned to the U.S. Marshal's Fugitive Task Force, even said he was off duty. "I kept wracking my brain to keep him focused on me and not jumping," Rivers said. Rivers thought he had lost the man when he removed his eyeglasses and put them down. He kept looking at the water. "Please tell me you're going to have boats down there. I know I'm going to die, but I don't want the sharks to get me," he told Rivers. Boats from the Charleston County Sheriff's Office, Coast Guard and Mount Pleasant Police Department gathered in the harbor. They stayed close enough to scoop up the man if he jumped and just far enough away to not spook him. "I will do anything you want me to do for you not to jump," Rivers pleaded. Tears now streaked the man's face. Rivers assured the man he'd get help at a local hospital and wouldn't go to jail. He climbed back to safety, hugged Rivers and told him, "I don't want to die, I don't want to die." Eleven minutes had passed. "It's probably the most emotional moment of my whole career, and I've been doing this 11 years," Rivers said.
Allyson Bird contributed to this report. Reach Nita Birmingham at 937-5433 or nbirmingham@postand courier.com.
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Posted by chucktonian on August 6, 2008 at 1:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
good, now bill this coward for all of the emergency services deployed to save him. suicide is a sin
Posted by SeaSaw on August 6, 2008 at 2:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Hey, do you have a phone?" he asked again. "Call 911. I'm going to kill myself."
If he had really wanted to die, he would not have wanted her to call 911. I guess it was a cry for help. I wonder how much high gas prices had to do with it. Financial difficulties can cause stress, marital problems, & depression. I hope the guy gets his life back on track. Good job Detective Rivers.
Posted by Johnq2 on August 6, 2008 at 2:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
chucktonian-
I suppose you consider yourself a good christian?
Isn't there something in the bible about judging others lest you be judged?
You obviously have the compassion of a slug and are a pitiful example of a christian.
Jerk!
Posted by Creeker01 on August 6, 2008 at 4:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
LOL @ the Hypocrisy of Johnq2's judgement of Chuck...
Posted by vofr on August 6, 2008 at 5:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Except chuck actually was a complete jerk and deserved it and Chuck is a pitiful example of christianity, which does not preach the hate that chuck exuded. We have no idea what drove this man to do the things he did, but Chuck told us way more about himself in one statement.
Posted by lemonhead on August 6, 2008 at 6:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
i am sooo glad that officer got him not to jump i losta brother to suicide,itsss not a goodd feeling,not knowing why i hope he gets the help he needs and can make abetter life for him and his family
Posted by ChasCarolinaGirl on August 6, 2008 at 6:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
SeaSaw ~ I completely agree w/ your statement. If he wanted to committ suicide, why call 911.
Creeker01 ~ I agree w/ your statement too. That is something how people talk about others judging when they do it themselves, Christian or not.
As far as this guy's suicide attempt goes, its ridiculous. LEMONHEAD ~ I am sorry for what you are going through, but suicide is selfish. See, You are the one who was left to suffer and it is not fair to family or friends.
Posted by lemonhead on August 6, 2008 at 6:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
its not always selfish,sometimes they feel like they have no other choice,life can be hard on some,
Posted by moonpie on August 6, 2008 at 6:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
That's right people we don't know what this person was going through. But I have to agree it sounds like an attention grabber.
Hey I know a guy that has done the same thing a few times. Guess what, and this should make you feel great, he has a gun permit and WORKS IN A GUN SHOP!
Posted by lemonhead on August 6, 2008 at 6:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
no one really knows why a person commits suicide,seems more and more are doing it,look at the two that jumped off the bridge what 6 or 8 months ago and they were college students
Posted by MisWesaMoves on August 6, 2008 at 6:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I've known "Rivs" for a long time. He is a caring and compassionate man, always has been. I knew him before he became a cop and that's all he ever wanted to do. He wanted to help people. So I was not surprised to see he was the one helping the man in distress. We need more law enforcement officers like Thomas on the local forces.
Posted by ChasCarolinaGirl on August 6, 2008 at 6:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I ONLY say that its selfish because they seem to not think about what it does to the people they left behind.
I did not that to make you feel badly. I am sorry that you had to go through that with your brother committing suicide.
Posted by lemonhead on August 6, 2008 at 6:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
is ok carolina gril i am come to except it a day doesnt go by that i dont think of him,i dont think suicide is the answer to anything,but not everyone thinks like i do,life is hard now adays and harder for some,maybe he didnt really want to kill himself ,maybe was his way of getting help
Posted by LocalHero on August 6, 2008 at 6:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
-Plato
Posted by follygirl on August 6, 2008 at 6:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Detective Rivers, WHAT A MAN!!!!!!! Enough said!
and sexy too!
Posted by lemonhead on August 6, 2008 at 6:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
follygirl u are sooo right he can talk to me anyday... welll anyday bf not home lol
Posted by gamecockcougar on August 6, 2008 at 6:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I probably would have expressed alot of the comments yall are writing about concerning the selfishness of suicide; however, I have experienced suicide first hand recently.
My brother slipped into a deep depression over a year ago and ended up taking his own life. He didn't drink or use drugs(not that it matters), he ran every day and went to church every Sunday.
Mental illness is very hard to understand and its easy to judge. I can't tell you how many times I told my brother to "snap out of it" before he died.
It's easy to judge this guy but mental illness, depression, can happen to anyone at anytime.
Posted by ChasCarolinaGirl on August 6, 2008 at 6:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I say that its selfish b/c I was effected by it myself when a friend committed suicide. Its just after some time, I think of how selfish it was for her to do that. She also did not reach out to anyone, so it was a surprise for many.
Posted by DoaMM on August 6, 2008 at 7:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The people who really want to commit suicide end up in the newspaper the next day in the obituary section. This man was looking for attention.
But I should point out that if he had not gotten attention (over and over again), then he may have killed himself. He was testing to see if he was worth something in society. Now that he got attention, he wouldn't jump.
Bill him...
Posted by Tammie on August 6, 2008 at 7:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
GBoogie, be nice. Lol
Anyways, kudos to Detective Rivers for coming to this man's aid. The fact that the man asked someone to call 911 before he "attempted" suicide was a cry for help. Like the majority of you said, most people who are serious about ending their lives would not have asked someone to call 911, they would have just done it. Some people we see everyday are going through their own private hell and think suicide is their only option. I agree, suicide is a selfish way out because look at how many "victims" are left behind. But who are we to judge, we dont have to stand in front of Him when that time comes (if that person is a Christian).
All in all, I'm glad this man did not lose his life and I hope he gets the help he needs.
Posted by ln1959 on August 6, 2008 at 7:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Great job Detective Rivers.
For all that think suicide is being selfish, or just plain crazy, please volunteer to work a "Suicide Help Line" and I assure you that after one night, you would have a hold different outlook.
I thought I was a very strong person, until I got that one call. I could not finish up the night or return the next night. I will never forget it.
As a teenager, I woke up one morning to a friend knocking on my door and crying because one of our friend had committed suicide.
So when I had the chance, I volunteer to work one of these suicide lines, because I thought I could help someone.
Posted by DoaMM on August 6, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh, and congrats, Detective Rivers. You did an excellent job...11 minutes.
Kudos!
Posted by tallblonde on August 6, 2008 at 8 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Unlike several past jumpers - I appreciate this wasn't done around rush-hour...
Posted by EvilGenius on August 6, 2008 at 8:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Johnq may be a hypocrite, christian hating clown, but he is right on this one, this man needed help and wanted help. It sucks he had to get it this way, but hopefully he will get help.
God job Detective Rivers, and thank you for not being one of the "evil" cops that johnq is so quick to attack and disparage.
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 8:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
We again see the heroics of a fine officer doing his duty and then in Walterboro sc a fine deputy sheriff is killed in the line of duty God bless both men
Posted by ms_lady2u on August 6, 2008 at 8:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the guy was crying out for attention, Great job sexy-*## Rivers you can save me anyday)smile, but on a serious note, I hope this man seek help,and find some kind of employment.He probably ran out of gas on his way to meet his maker!!
Posted by skeeter on August 6, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Way to go Detective Rivers!!! You are a fine example of a hero!
Posted by 10216340 on August 6, 2008 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Actually folks, what I immediately got out of his request to call 911 was so that he could have the authorities on the scene to get to his body. If you read later in the story it talks about him wanting to make sure there are boats in the water so the sharks don't get him and how he wanted to be a organ donor.
I think this was a whole lot more than a "cry for help". Depression is something most people don't understand until they or someone close to them experience it. It's not logical so it's difficult to accept that it's real and not just someone bummed out.
Good job Officer Rivers.....you saved a life and I know that is probably one of the reasons you went into public service.
Posted by ChasCarolinaGirl on August 6, 2008 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh, I believe that Detective Rivers needs some consoling now ... He can call me anytime ;-)
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Anyone who can read that story and not feel the pain that man was going through is heartless.
I am not happy when people do commit the cat of suicide but when they call out for help first then you know they don’t really want to do it. I pray that he seeks help. God bless you detective Rivers. And also God Bless the family of Deputy Compton that was killed in Smoaks SC.
Posted by ChasCarolinaGirl on August 6, 2008 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I dont see where it stated that he wanted to be an organ donor. If he was serious about committing suicide, how could he even think about being an organ donor. I would think that if life is that hard, suicide would be your foremost thought, not being an organ donor.
Posted by dogwoodroad on August 6, 2008 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree girls...Detective Rivers can come to my aid any time!!! To all the boys who needed to be put in a corner after their comments about the playboy bunny, payback's hell!!!
Posted by DoaMM on August 6, 2008 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Okay, ladies...take a cold shower...
:)
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I read it ChasCArolinaGirl it is there he also took his glasses off which from what I understand most jumpers will do.
Rivers kept some distance while trying to get close enough to start a conversation. He listened as the man talked about being out of work for months. He said he just caused problems for everyone. He talked about his family and described how he'd tried to arrange to donate his organs after his death.
Posted by DoaMM on August 6, 2008 at 8:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Folks that jump 130 feet to their death, whether landing on concrete or water, wouldn't be much good for organ donation. It would be the internal injuries that kill them.
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
He is Nice looking man, but i wouldnt go gaga over him . Well it could be I am too old to gaga.
Posted by highclass on August 6, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Det. Rivers is hot.
Posted by BigSargeofSC on August 6, 2008 at 8:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Suicide is one of the most selfish acts a human being can do. He didn't want to jump and never had any intentions of jumping. He now gets three meals a day and a bed. Nice job, dumbazz.
Posted by EvilGenius on August 6, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok, I admit, Rivers is me, all you woman meet me at the bridge, I will save you.
Gadsden, you come too, I will push you in, you heartless man you! LOL
Posted by Larz13 on August 6, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
FYI...most life insurance policies pay your heirs ZERO if you commit suicide.
Posted by DoaMM on August 6, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
granny wrote:
"...he also took his glasses off which from what I understand most jumpers will do."
You are correct. 80-90% of people who commit suicide by jumping off a structure will leave a personal item (glasses, shoes, purse, etc.) from the point where they jumped. It has been known to be a subconscious way of telling everyone "I was here".
If there is no personal item, authorities tend to look at a "sudden" decision or foul play.
Posted by flinsc on August 6, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
He has a pink shirt and is a detective, was he Crockett's stunt double on Miami Vice?
Posted by wpc3iop on August 6, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I would pay to see Johnq2 jump off the bridge...
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gadsden, I was thinking the same thing. I thought he kinda looked like him too. But thinner version.
Posted by dogwoodroad on August 6, 2008 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why are all the men on here intimidated by pink shirts?
Posted by BigSargeofSC on August 6, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gadsden, I would not insult the honor of the Marine Corps by sending this idiot to Parris Island.
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I Wonder if this is the first suicide attempt since the economy has gotten so bad.
There use to be a suicide hot line years ago is it still in effect? I do hope he gets help
Posted by BigSargeofSC on August 6, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yea, thats true, Gadsden. But instead of the Marines, lets send to the Shock Camp with the Wando Stupids.
Posted by MsPiggy on August 6, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm just so glad that most of you posters live perfect lives, never go through anything hard, had parents that raised you in the most pleasant household, and have never once faced financial difficulty.
Most people I'm assuming do not know this man. Therefore, most people have NO CLUE of what this man was going through, or what he was facing, or what was going through his mind.
So with that said, to all of those people who are juding him and saying this and that: GET A LIFE. Stop being such heartless human beings. Grow some compassion, would you?
Yes I understand suicide is selfish, its the worst act you commit. I have a close friend who's brother commited suicide. Just talking with them has given me some insight into that situation. A lot of people are just so desperate for a way out, and find none. Most think that the world would be better without them, that the life insurance will pay their debts.
I applaud dectective Rivers. What a great act of bravery and courage! When so many people walking the bridge just kept right on going, Rivers had the guts to coax this man down. HURRAH! I'm sure this man's family will be forever grateful.
And yes, my my what a handsome man River's is. ;-)
Posted by Tammie on August 6, 2008 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Evil, that was you?? You big sexy hunk of man you!! Lol I hope you're over 6 feet tall, otherwise all you can do is save my shoes.
Posted by Larz13 on August 6, 2008 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
My 70 year old Dad uses aqua velva. Gave up Vitalis and Brylcream years ago.
Posted by ASHLEY_COOPER on August 6, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
People who jump are obviously very distraught. If they stopped to think they might land on some innocent boater who just happened to be passing below, killing them, perhaps even a child, they might think twice.
But apparently their misery so great, they do not wait to contemplate. And while suicide may be painless, it has a consequence. Not sure organs slammed into the water at 100 mph plus would have much value.
Kudos to Detective Rivers.
Posted by justus1017 on August 6, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't remember anywhere in the bible where it reads suicide is a sin. Even if it is so is alot of other things like gossiping, adultry, fornication. Thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife nor his ox or his ass or anything else, etc. (LADIES) The only sin that is not forgiven is blasphemy against God. He also stated "he wanted his organs donated" so that's why he wanted 911 to get there fast. He was still thinking of others. How sweet right ladies? DEPRESSION IS REAL PEOPLE AND IT AFFECTS MORE PEOPLE EVERYDAY WITH THIS SICK ECONOMY. THATS WHY HALF OF YOU ARE UNDERCOVER ALCOHOLICS AND DRUG ADDICTS RIGHT?
Posted by EvilGenius on August 6, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tammie "I hope you're over 6 feet tall, otherwise all you can do is save my shoes."
Crap! LMAO!
Posted by Early on August 6, 2008 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I hear Rivers is gay so goodbye ladies!
He looks like a young Quinn from Jaws.
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I attempted suicide when I was 13 because I was being molested (among other things that being a teenager brought about) and didn't want to deal with it any longer. I called my best friend before I did it. I really thought I wanted to die at the time so I wanted to say good bye to her. I explained to her what I was going through and she talked me out of it. A few weeks later we reported my abuser, he was taken away, and I received counseling. Maybe this man will get the counseling he may very well need as a result of his "cry for help".
Posted by BigSargeofSC on August 6, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"I'm just so glad that most of you posters live perfect lives, never go through anything hard, had parents that raised you in the most pleasant household, and have never once faced financial difficulty."- MsPiggy
As an Army veterian and participant in the first Gulf War in 1990-1991, I've seen and lived through "hard" you can't even imagine in your worst nightmare. This idiot wanted nothing more than attention and he got it. This would-be jumper gets no sympathy from me. The people who get my sympathy are those who are returning from war who are killing themselves everyday. My heart bleeds for those who suffer from Post Tramatic Stress after seeing bodies blown to pieces, to those who can't drive down the street because they are still looking for IED's and snipers.
Have a heart for this loser? Not even close.
Posted by Tammie on August 6, 2008 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lol @ Evil
Early, how do you know Det. Rivers is tangy?
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
MsPiggy this is an OPINION POST people can have their OPINON as you have your OPINION
That being said if you are upset by others OPINIONS I suggest you not read the post in here just go by the paper and read it from home or your office wherever but criticizing the people who post here wont do a bit of good we all have our OPINIONS as you also have your and I will respect yours
Posted by wpc3iop on August 6, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gadsden: If Johnq2 holds up traffic we can just shove him over the side...shark bait...
Posted by DoaMM on August 6, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
VERY good observation, Early...
"...by early light, sharks come'a cruzin'..."
HA! Great scene...
Gadsden wrote:
"Everyone gets handed a shiatburger they have to eat at some point or another - sometimes a plate of them at once."
I got me a whole plate full right now, but I try to enjoy it with a little Grey Poupon and fresh ground pepper...or is that grey poop-on?
Too funny, dude...
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
justus1017 I Think you are misinturpting what the ladies are talking about the are talking about the good looking detective not the one he saved. That’s if I read your post right.
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gadsden, my ordeal has made me one tough biatch, that is why when people start in on me I say "I have tough skin". There is nothing anyone can say to me that could hurt me after the crap I had gone through in my life. I could write a series of books about it and if the title "A Series of Unfortunate Events" wasn't taken already, that would definitely fit mine.
I have mixed feelings about the would be jumper because I have been there. Now I could never be so bold as to attempt to jump because I am not your heights kind of girl. And besides, I would never want to mess up my Lovely face...LOL! Part of me feels that had he wanted to die he would have taken the plunge and not told anyone. Then, part of me reminds me that I did the exact same thing. I called someone before I took the pills. Which leads me to the point that I did mine in the privacy of my own home and not out in public.
Posted by SCNightHawk on August 6, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Morning Guys & Gals of the Crew. Lovely, I'm glad that someone was there to give you the help you needed to overcome your problems. My hat is off to whomever....They obviously did a tremendous job! Just look at you today. I agree with many of the others posting today...This guy was obviously looking for help he just went about it in a very stupid way.
Posted by RTC on August 6, 2008 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank goodness Det.Rivers kept a cool head in what had to be a horrible situation. I'm so glad that he doesn't have to live with a failure on his conscience. It wouldn't have been his fault if this man jumped, but I'm sure he would have suffered nonetheless.
Yes, suicide may be a selfish act, but has anyone ever really been able to ask a successful suicide why they did it? Of course not. This guy could have been very serious, and you never ignore a suicide threat. Depression and other mental illness is not a joke. The pain that these people go through is as bad, if not worse, than many physical ailments.
I'm just glad that this one was prevented, and I truly hope that this man gets the help that he clearly needs.
Family's of suicide victims often never find any form of closure.
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with the ladies on the yummy looking Detective Rivers. And a hero to boot. My, my. (wonder if he has a Harley?!)
But, this man was needing attention, and its a shame that he had to go to this extreme to get it. Yes, suicide can be a selfish act. Some one very close to me threatened it several times, but thankfully never followed through. But that person truly thought that was the best thing that could happen to his/her loved ones at the time because the depression was so consuming. Since then, I have learned to have a little more patience.
Posted by MissPriss on August 6, 2008 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lemonhead- I know exactly what you are going through and I'm sorry. My brother decided (right around my senior exams) that he had had enough. It's really hard and there isn't one day that I don't wish that I could have talked to and seen him more (He lived in Texas).
Good Job Detective!
Posted by SCNightHawk on August 6, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gadsden, I was with you up to the aqua velva comment. That stuff smells like monkey piss mixed together with a cup full of bengay. Lucy, Stella is not my frigid girl friend, it's my favorite brew.
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gadsden- Aqua Velva??? Euww! sorry, hon, that stuff stinks!
Good morning, hawk, granny, tammie, lovely, rtc, early, and everyone else!!
Lovely- I am very sorry that you had to go through that. You have definitely become a survivor- and a strong one at that. I truly admire you.
And boys- you act kinda jealous of all the postive feed back Detective Yummy is getting this morning. What gives???
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 9:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hawk, thanks so much. Trust me I am indebted to her forever. She doesn't even mention it, but we both know how much she helped me. I just thank God that I had her to talk to and that I was too dang scared to go through with it. There are many people in my life that still don't know that I had even contemplated taking that route let alone that I actually tried it. But I do know one thing, taking pills is not the way to go, if you don't do it right you only wind up with a headache so bad that you wish you had succeeded.
Like I said, I just hope this guy gets the counseling he obviously needs whether this was an attention grabber or not.
Posted by southerngirl45 on August 6, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Det.Rivers
Thank you for a job well done.It does not matter why he wanted to call 911.Maybe that was his cry for help,or maybe he wanted someone to know where to find him in case he was succesful.So many people have so many problems(including myself),but not everyone is strong.Det.Rivers gave this poor soul hope,he let him know some people still care about others even in this evil world we live in today! I think he did a fantastic job and I feel good knowing that just one person like him is out there and especially putting his life on the line everyday to protect us.DET.RIVERS YOU ARE A TRUE HERO!I hope this gentleman can get the help he needs!
Posted by EvilGenius on August 6, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Stella Artois - good to the last drop...I lick the cap!
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok people not that I would do it ... but, I have always said if I was to want to do the act. I would go deep in the woods with a bunch of sleeping pills no ID and do it that way. NOOOO I have no intention of doing it and yes I have had a LOT of HARD times even to the point of having my children stay with family while their father and I lived in the car while looking for work. And as I said the children were with family not with us when we lived in the car (all of two weeks)
Yes the thoughts would hit but I would think of my children. And now at this time I am glad it was a thought and not an action. And maybe one day that man will be glad that someone saved him as well. BTW I cant d it that way now I have to many Tattoo to ID me
Posted by jk_newhard on August 6, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Suicide is a selfish act and causes untold pain and heartache for those left behind.
But one point to remember is that people in this kind of personal pain CANNOT just "snap out of it" or be shocked out of it by mistreatment. They need professional psychiatric help.
With the state (availability, cost) of mental health services in SC, this was probably the only way this man could get the help he needs. This applies to everyone: the privately insured; the publicly insured; those with no insurance.
Please, if anyone reading this feels as if this man had the right idea or if you know anyone who shows warning signs of being suicidal (http://www.suicide.org/suicide-warning-s...), please call one of the numbers listed on this website: http://suicidehotlines.com/southcarolina...
Posted by Newt on August 6, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am amazed at the compassion displayed by some posters; from judging this distraught man for being a sinner to being a wimp. Covering the entire gambit of human empathy aren’t you all?
JohnQ – I am glad to see someone still fighting the good fight. Sorry, my soul has been damaged by the heartless comments I read of this page daily. I obviously have some masochistic tendencies, because I come back for more; however I now refuse to allow the compassionate conservatives to compel me to respond out of anger. Now I just feel tremendous sorrow for the damage they ultimately are doing to themselves.
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lucy, I say that I am a victor and not a victim! I have the mentality that I am the one who decides what beats me and this is one thing that will never do that. You are the master of your own domain; your reign ends where mine begins.
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Evil- you lick the cap??? Okay. That must be good stuff.
Granny- how many tattoo's do you have???? I just have one, and that's plenty. Hurt to damn bad to do it again.
Back on topic, depression is a very serious issue. Attempts at suicide are not to be taken lightly. And when a loved one talks about it, or threatens it, your first instinct is anger because you feel it is totally selfish on their part to leave you to pick up the pieces. That's where having supportive family and friends come in to play. Like I said- you go through this with someone, you will have a different outlook on this very sensitive issue.
See- I'm not such a hard azz after all.
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gadsden, my ex used Drakkar and I love the smell. Well, I did until he and I broke up, now I cannot stand it. I think the break up had something to do with it.
Posted by Early on August 6, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Old Spice still rocks.
I wish i could find some Hi Karate
Posted by Tammie on August 6, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sweet Thing wrote: "Gadsden, I was with you up to the aqua velva comment. That stuff smells like monkey piss mixed together with a cup full of bengay."
I'm done. Lmao
Evil and Sweet Thing, I've never heard of Stella. If you're licking the cap, it must be good.
Love a dub dub, may God continue to bless you girlie.
Granny, you have tattoos? Go Granny! :-)
Back on topic, in all honesty, I really hope this man gets all the help he needs.
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gasden- Honey, you can find after shave in the expensive stuff that smell sooooo much better than that aqua crap. And even better, Bath and Body works has a great line of men's skin care that includes an after shave balm that smells so good. You probably would attract a whole lot more chickypoos with that than ~gasp~ aqaua velva!
Posted by suec on August 6, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am glad Det. Rivers was there.
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
My tattoos are as follows one large one on my breast one on each ankle a frog and a lion and a rose on my back.
I am so glad there is still a place where people can try to get help thinking you jk_newhard for sharing that info with us.
Posted by guidedbystewart on August 6, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"I am amazed at the compassion displayed by some posters; from judging this distraught man for being a sinner to being a wimp. Covering the entire gambit of human empathy aren’t you all?"
"good, now bill this coward for all of the emergency services deployed to save him. suicide is a sin"
Now, for any of yall wondering why nonchristians have a disdain for christians, here is a good reason.
Posted by EvilGenius on August 6, 2008 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
hey newt, I am conservative and cant stand johnqball, BUT, did you read my post at 8:02 a.m?
Relax, take a deep breath....and remember, this is place where opinions are posted!
and of course now the typical comment blaming the "cost" of mental health care;
jk_newhard "With the state (availability, cost) of mental health services in SC, this was probably the only way this man could get the help he needs."
I seem to remember in the late 80s, that the ACLU, forced mental health providers to release tens of thousands of mentally ill people, out of the providers care, because it "violated" the metally ill's rights.
Now that is compassion.
Posted by SCNightHawk on August 6, 2008 at 9:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm glad that this guy is finally going to get some help. I'm just sorry he had to go to such extremes to bring attention to the fact that he needed help.
Early, I miss Canoe...It was a real pantie droper with the high school crowd. Man.. I'm dating myself now!!
Granny, and Lucy, I'll show you mine if you show me yours!! (Tat's that is)
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 9:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tammie, girl I'm good. I have learned that the more I talk about it the more I am able to talk about it. Over the years I went from being ashamed of that part of my life, to embracing it because it is a part of what helped shape me. I know that it was not my fault that I went through that mess and I lay the blame where it should be. And the thing is, I am in no way bitter. I actually pity him.
But this is not about me, it's about the poor guy and that SESSY azz Det. Rivers!!!
Posted by Newt on August 6, 2008 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Note, I said some posters.
Correct, this is a place to post opinions and I did.
You guys should all form a club....since you come on hear and only want to read like minds.
hmmmmm what could you call yourselves? I know.....The Damn Everyone Else Cept Conservation Streamers....get it? DEECCS (pronounced DICKS!)
Posted by southerngirl45 on August 6, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Time for me to go because all you posters have gotten off tract again(just kidding) Being serious ,I sincerely hope this story has a good outcome. If you remember the artical said Det. Rivers was not a crisis officer,but I believe he will be after this because he did an outstanding job! And in closing may I just say "Det Rivers you can rescue this little ole' lady anytime!!!!
Posted by FortDorchesterMom on August 6, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
So, Gadsden, would you rather that he jumped? Just because you've seen horrible things doesn't mean that you can judge this man on what he has seen, on what has happened to him.
Walk a mile in someone else's shoes.
I'll just bet that if this man had jumped, the comments would probably run along the same lines that they're running right now. That seems to be the common theme on this site...negative, negative, and just a little more negative to top it off.
Posted by SCNightHawk on August 6, 2008 at 10:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gasden, The worst is/was Blatz. I used to drink that in college. It was 3.99 a case and you had to strain it through a tee shirt to extract all the shyte floating inside the bottle. Those were hard times dude....
Posted by scsthrnbelle on August 6, 2008 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank God for Det. Rivers... Who knows what this man's life has been like to push him to consider suicide. And I agree with Johnq2...let's have some compassion, people. My life hasn't always been easy and if it hadn't been for the fear of leaving my children, I may have thought of ending it all, too. People reach a point that they feel they have nothing, are worth nothing and have no reason for living. If you've never felt that way, consider yourself more than blessed and be grateful. However, don't judge this man because of his actions...he said he didn't want to die. Maybe this was his only way of reaching out for help. Yes, it costs tax dollars, but the outcome was worth it. If he had succeeded in ending his life, I'm sure our tax dollars would have been spent taking care of his family. And is that a bad thing? If not spent on someone's surviving family, it'll be spent on someone that doesn't even attempt to work. I hope this man gets the help he needs, has a family that will pray with him and love him, and a community that will reach out to him. I wish I could put my arms around Det. Rivers and tell him job well done. We all could learn a lot from him and I'm proud of him!!
Posted by Early on August 6, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
SCNightHawk Early, I miss Canoe...It was a real pantie droper with the high school crowd.
That was funny as shyt!
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Mental health care is only good as long as the person suffering is willing to under go said care.
And that, my good friends, is not always easy.
Posted by DoaMM on August 6, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Classic, archdude...
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 10:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Canoe?? panty dropper?? OMG, Hawk- Those girls must have had no sense!! Get it, no sense??? OMG, now that was funny, right there!!
And I'll show you mine! It's very pretty. But was very painful. Longest 2 1/2 hours of my life, it seemed.
And why do some people have to resort to name calling?? I guess they have no other intelligent way of expessing themselves. That is just so immature. And shows a great lack of brain power.
'Mornin, Arch!!!
Posted by yeayea on August 6, 2008 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by LocalHero on August 6, 2008 at 6:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
-Plato
FINE QUOTE.
Great job Det. Rivers!
Posted by SCNightHawk on August 6, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Newt, No one here is making light of this poor guy condition only the way he went about calling out for help. Again, this is a forum for sharing differing opinions. Just take a chill pill or better yet a cold Stella and quit with the name calling.
Lucy, I have tribal arm bands around both biceps. I must be into pain because they really didn't hurt that badly.
Posted by tripsa on August 6, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
hope this guy gets help!
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hawk- mine is a very delicate, pretty butterfly with delicate vines curving around on both sides. Lower back. I know, tramp stamp. The butterfly is about 2 " tall, and the whole design is about 10" across. IDK for sure. I can't really see it!!
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
As sad before hopefully this man will get help. But what bother me right now is that things are bad out there and people don’t have jobs they are hard to come by. For those that really want to work. And depression gets to them. I am working and sometimes I get depressed because I can t place these people in jobs.
I know how it is when you are too proud to ask for assistance. Ok I am off on one of my soap box preaching but back in 29 they didn’t call it a depression for nothing
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Okay, Hawk looks like Howie Mandel with a bald head and he has tattoos around his arms. Is anyone else wanting him to email a photo of himself or is it just me?
I know, corner!
Posted by MsPiggy on August 6, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
blah blah blah...
Yall just have no compassion. I didn't realize that anything he did affected your daily life. I'm sorry, your whole work day was completely F-ed because he wanted to jump. It's not like they shut down the bridge. Geeze. Everybody's blood boils over a situation that didn't even affect them.
Whateva. He did it for attention, yet when Rivers was talking to him tears were streaming down his face, oh and when he finally decided NOT to jump he hugged Rivers and said he didn't want to die. Maybe it was just me, and yeah so what maybe I did tear up when I read that part.
It's a cry for help.
I understand that some people think their past lives were SO HARDCORE because they served in Vietnam and saw their best friends heads blow off and had to carry their suffering comrads to safety. Among a long list of other gruesome things. Ok. I understand.
But those people need to eat a piece of humble pie and understand that maybe certain situations in that man's life were their "Vietnam" experience. Yes, losing a job is NOTHING compared to serving in the military. HOWEVER: We are all different. We've all had different experiences. We react to situations different. Thank-God that we are not all the same. I'm pretty confident that the PnC didn't do the greatest job at reporting what the circumstances surrounding the jump were.
Man, some of you guys know NOTHING about this man, yet are so quick to judge and call him a SCUMBAG and worthless piece of SHEET. What the heck?
Granny, I understand everybody has an opinion and thats fine. I guess I'm just shocked at the fact that so many feel the way that they do.
And oh by the way, I won't ever read the actual paper from my office because I'm to CHEAP to buy it everyday. It's more eco-friendly to read it online. Plus, I'm too cheap to buy it. So there.
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Good morning, Newt. Calm down and think of the great outdoors! :-)
Posted by Thomas1776 on August 6, 2008 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
After reading all of the above post, it's easy to see the seeds of satan himself.
Posted by SCNightHawk on August 6, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Arch, Your Canoe comment cut me to the bone.
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lovely- I was thinking the same thing about Hawk, so I will join you in the corner!!
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
MsPiggy, I didn't realize that anything any of the posters write here affected your daily life. You seem so up in arms over things that people you don't know and probably never will know are saying on a website. Calm down, okay, hon. It's a beautiful day out. :-)
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The one on my breast is one I designed myself. It is a heart with a piece missing with two doves that represent my late husband and me. the missing piece is the part that was taken from me when he passed away. And under that the initials of my 4 children. One leg has a piece frog the other the head of a male lion. I love big cats and then a rose on my back left shoulder.
As I said I do hope people will understand as I do that sometimes you do feel you family will be better of with out you but that is what depression is. I will do feel for this young man be cause I see them everyday they come in here really want I job an did have none to give sometimes I go home a little depressed as well
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks, lucy! It was getting lonely over here.
Posted by SCNightHawk on August 6, 2008 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lovely, I don't think that your hubby would approve and if there is one thing I like less than JohnQ it's upset spouses.
Back on track, mental illness is a horrible demon the deal with. It often times makes the victim unaware of his/her problems and renders them unable to ask for or seek the help that they so desperately need.
Posted by Tammie on August 6, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lmao @ Lovely
I've seen Hawk at Barnes and Noble in the music section looking at the New Age music. He looks like Billy Ray Cyrus minus the hair...
Kidding!
Posted by Thomas1776 on August 6, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Newt,
You are not kidding there - about people who are heartless. Some people get their kicks and jollies off of being cruel. When you call them down or fire back at them putting them in their place, it's a common tactic for them to try and turn everything around on you. And some of these people teach their children their same ways.
satan is everywhere. God protect us from him.
Posted by Weeeee on August 6, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This story has made so many tangents. I can't even count them all. Had to add some input. I wear Acqua Di Gio and no...not the whole bottle every time. Want to attract them not have them breathing my cologne.
I agree with any/all comments about compassion and even agree with suicide being selfish. I've been there. Didn't really get any professional counseling. Honestly, I think I just realized the act was stupid and that my life wasn't all bad.
And for the record...this HAS to be Bush's fault.
Posted by Thomas1776 on August 6, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Kudos, Detective Rivers.
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hawk, trust me I wouldn't put any of us through the anger from my husband! And you are right, some people don't realize that they have an illness so it goes untreated and festers until one day it is too late. They either cause harm to themselves or to others. That is where people's immediate circles come in. We need to pay attention to our friends and family members and look for the simplest signs that something may be wrong. Ask questions if you aren't sure of the person's state of mind. You never know how people open up when someone shows some kind of interest in them. Just a simple "are you okay?" could help save a person's life!
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
. This is not a place to put people in their place this is for posting opinions true some of get off track a bit but most in here have not put him down they are saying he needs help or do you only read what you want too. And mspiggy I didn’t mean any harm but I also have a subscription I get the P&C everyday at home I like the funnies
Posted by Thomas1776 on August 6, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Empathy is currently one of the most discussed topics in psychology. Parental empathy seems central in nourishing the development of psychological health. Deficiencies in parental empathy are likely to be key factors in creating risks for personality disorders, interpersonal impairments and depression. In adults, lack of empathy is a contributing factor in perpetrating exploitive and abusive behavior.
Posted by Weeeee on August 6, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
And before I forget, job well done Det. Rivers.
Posted by RTC on August 6, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I hate to make a joke on a serious article, but I can promise you that if, and that would be a very big if, I ever tried to jump from the bridge, I would not be so lucky to have a rugged, handsome cop talk me down. With my luck, I would get a 300lb. female with her hair cut way up over her ears and spiked on top. She would tell me her name was Deb, but to call her big D, and then I would have to jump.
There would be no choice in the matter.
Posted by Weeeee on August 6, 2008 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
RTC, I don't think it'd help much if "Deb" told you to "man-up" either. hahaha
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Good Morning, Weeeee!! Aqua di Gio- now that stuff smells good. OMG, it smell so good!!!
I'm very sorry to hear that you went through something that led you to those thoughts. Depression is very serious issue.
I hope this man gets some help. I'm sure causing traffic problems or being an inconvenience to others was not on his mind that day.
Posted by Tammie on August 6, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Alright, enough of all this damn bickering. Wooosaaa...time for something to make you all smile..or an attempt to:
1. Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me either. Just pretty much leave me alone.
2 The journey of a thousand miles begins with a broken fan belt or a leaky tire.
3. It's always darkest before dawn , so if you're going to steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.
4. Don't be irreplaceable. If you can't be replaced, you can't be promoted.
5. Always remember that you're unique. Just like everyone else..
6. Never test the depth of the water with both feet.
7. If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of car payments.
8. Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you hav e their shoes.
9. If at first you don't succeed...... skydiving is not for you.
10. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
11. If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.
12. Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield.
13. Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.
14. The quickest way to double your money is to fold it in half and put back in your pocket.
15. A closed mouth gathers no foot.
16. Duct tape is like 'The Force'. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.
17. There are two theories to arguing with a women - Neither one works.
18. Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your lips are moving.
19 Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
20. Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
hmm that bigd is my husband's handle on the internet AND he is every bit a man
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 11:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
LMAO @ RTC!!! No, I wouldn't be that lucky either. He really is good looking...... i'm ok now.
Posted by RTC on August 6, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
granny, a man called big D is fine, but please no females with that name. Makes my skin crawl.
Posted by Clemson1979 on August 6, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The person was wrong about life insurance and suicide. ALL life insurance has a 2 yr suicide waiting period. After 2 years, you can kill yourself on the insurance companies front steps and it doesnt matter. The law is to protect people from ins companies claiming deaths might have suicide and not paying.
Posted by Tammie on August 6, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lmao @ RTC!! Big D...lmao
Hey Weeee, where ya been?
Posted by follygirl on August 6, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Detective Rivers obviously has the whole package going, not just looks. Its the "total" that makes him so sexy! He did a wonderful job, stayed patient, talked with the man, etc. Not many could do it better!
Posted by Weeeee on August 6, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Good morning everyone (especially Lucy). Thank you for your sympathy. I haven't been like that since I was a teenager even though I do get down sometimes. Who doesn't? Really. Probably why I feel for this guy.
Posted by Weeeee on August 6, 2008 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Morning Tammie, it's been a busy ass morning this morning. Dealership has my car yet again.
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Aww, thanks Weeee!
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tammie I liked his name when we met on the internet then 2 yrs later I really like him and married BigD
Posted by jeff61 on August 6, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Where is Farafalls telling us she once had a friend that was going to jump off a bridge and ...............
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sorry girls he is nice looking an dall but i am with hte guys on this he does look like a thinner Larry the cable guy
Posted by SCNightHawk on August 6, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lovely, your insight into subjects such as this really astounds me. You have taken all of the thoughts expressed so far on this subject and rolled them all into one simple paragraph. You are every bit as lovely on the "inside" as i'm sure you are on the outside.
PS You and Lucy can come out of the corner now...An no, not even Billy Ray sans the mullet cut. A tad bit older and a few more facial wrinkles.
Posted by Tammie on August 6, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gee, at second glance, he does look like he's about to say "Git 'er done!!" (I do like LTCG tho)
Weeee, I hope they gave you a nice enough loaner. Sorry about your Maybach being in the shop. :-)
Sweet Thing (Night Hawk) I still say you're fibbing about your age. But you have a youthful inside and that's kewl.
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gadsden- on a serious take on the whole Aqua Velva issue- Have you thought about using a good skin care line for Men? I mean like Clinique or something like that. They have products that will protect your face from razor burn, but not any fragrance. Just trying to help you out there.
Weeee- sorry you're having a rough morning!
Posted by SCNightHawk on August 6, 2008 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tammie, I wish I were kidding. I have daughters that are 19 and 26. But 56 ain't all that old.
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hawk, thanks, I couldn't see much being stuffed the corner like that..Lol! I have been told for as long as I can remember that I have an "old soul" so that may contribute to a lot of my thoughts and insight. I say that it is because I am an open-minded person. OR is it because I have multiple personalities and can relate to any and everyone on any different topic...Hmmmm there's a thought! Lol!
Posted by Tammie on August 6, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
GBoogie, time for your Firehouse Subs run sweetheart.
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
LMAO @ Gadsden!
Posted by scgaffer2u on August 6, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Detective Thomas Rivers is to be congratulated for his professional performance. We are very fortunate to have such competent, noble men like him in public service.
Some of the comments posted are disturbing in that they reveal many who seem to delight in voicing shallow mean-spirited comments. While this seems to be acceptable on the web, most would not dare voice such sentiments in person. Perhaps the web is valuable in that it allows these people to vent their banality anonymously.
God bless you Thomas Rivers. Your action speaks louder than all those shallow words. A brief prayer of thanks for Detective Rivers and the man he saved would be in order.
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks, Hawk. Don't like being in the corner. Too stuffy!
Gadsden- you are confusing me. (Don't say it, Tammie. Please, just don't!)
Posted by forget on August 6, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Just signed on for the day. All I can say for him is we all get a little down sometime. Growing up I went through the same type of thing that Lovely went through, father was abusive, etc. But I was a child, couldn't control an adult, and none of it was my fault. The way I deal.
But fast forward to today.... I just sold my house a month and a half ago, bought another one, and then my VW Beetle decided it was going to act up. It blew a head gasket. Talk about pricey. This came about immediatly after I took my daughter on a $3000 dive and snorkel vacation in the Fla. Keys. So, my mechanic fixes the headgasket and still can't figure out why it is still overheating. My mechanic is excellent and a 20+ friend so he is fully trusted. Then unfortunatly, he passes away Saturday. My heart is broken and so is my VW still.
I think I need Det. Rivers to save me.....
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hawk- 56 is not old. Not there myself, but old enough to realize that's not old.
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 11:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
AWWW forget here is a cyber hug anit as good as a real one but its here for you.
Posted by suec on August 6, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with scgaffer2u.
Too much meanness everywhere lately.
Too many people assuming that they know what another is thinking or what their intentions were.
Too many poeple people who enjoy other's problems because it somehow makes them feel superior.
Too many people who just love to point fingers at other's mistakes and gloat about how they would never ever ever be in that situation.
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
forget- I'll see if I can find him for you. ;)
Posted by jeff61 on August 6, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)
Sounds like she needs her car fixed more then a hug...If it heated up and blow a head gasket it may have also cracked the head...
Posted by Weeeee on August 6, 2008 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yet another reason why I'll never again buy a German auto. Maybe Det. Rivers can fix your VW?
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 12:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
No it’s not old I am almost two years older then that. I don’t feel old and I am a great grandma
scgaffer2u you are right in some sense but unless we walked in that man shoes as the saying goes.
But it is an opinion post, and yes some do get mean with the opinions. but some of us here know its there right to voice their opinions, mean or not. I for one hope he gets help.
Because there may not be another detective Rivers there to stop him.
There were a many a day I used to go to the battery (a long time ago) and contemplated jumping as well.
Posted by forget on August 6, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
They were checking for cracks on Friday. They ruled out the turbo and a few other things. Don't feel good about calling about it this week. Man, if Det. Rivers could fix a VW, too.... What a dream come true he could be, imagine this ladies - A good looking man WITH a job that can fix your VW!
Posted by Newt on August 6, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Commic hour instead of discussing the topic.
Thomas you are right on the mark with enpathy.
Mom always said everyone needs a little empathy, but sympathy is between shyte and Syphilis in the dictionary and no one needs any of them.
Posted by Tammie on August 6, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Damn forget, you DO have a lot going on. I think one thing that I've learned is whatever you are going through, there is ALWAYS someone going through something far worse that what you're dealing with. The primary office I work in is depressing. I try to be the "glimmer of happiness" for the people I encounter. A simple "Hey, how are you?" can make a world of difference to someone. I hope all gets better for you forget.
Posted by forget on August 6, 2008 at 12:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The way I look at it, at least I got a GREAT vacation before everything fell apart. And whatever I'm going through, my mechanic's family is going through way worse.
Posted by UrGatorbait on August 6, 2008 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mental illness is given such a stigma as witnessed by the stupid comments from our local brainless manly man trust on here.
Alot of people suffer from but are afraid to seek the help that is out there. Again that is generated by the ignorance, misunderstanding and misguided hysterical fears that are attached to people with mental illness. The brain is part of the body and the body. Like the rest of the body it can get sick and it can be treated.
If you've never experienced depression or other mental illnesses your BS comments just stir the pot and show what asses some here are.
Well done to to the detective and I hope the person that wanted to jump gets some treatment.
Posted by Weeeee on August 6, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Speaking of the "Hey, how are you?"...has anyone noticed how Taco Bell and Wendy's ask you that now? It's weird!
Posted by UrGatorbait on August 6, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes Gadsen you knew he just wasn't going to jump. You are a douche.
Posted by BigSargeofSC on August 6, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"While this seems to be acceptable on the web, most would not dare voice such sentiments in person."- scgaffer2u
I don't mix my words just because I'm typing a post on here. If I type it here, I'll say it anywhere to anyone.
This so-called "jumper" used attempted (barely) suicide to get attention. Nothing more. He's a loser who lacks the intestinal fortitude to face life's issues like a man.
Posted by SCNightHawk on August 6, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Newt, despite your assertions and reference to a comic hour, I think that the topic has been discussed quite tactfully. Humor is thrown in here and there but none towards the individual or his family. Thomas did a good job of cut and paste with his definition of empathy. Please ligthen up and enjoy life.....You may be the next victim of a mental meltdown!
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Again, we have those on here who resort to name calling. That is uncalled for and shows a complete lack of maturity.
I agree with you, Hawk. None of the humor shown on here today has been directed to this man. I think the posts have been pretty even in the comments both positive and negative. Life is too short to go off every time you read a post that you don't agree with.
Posted by suec on August 6, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
None of you know what this man was going through now or what his background is.
If he did it for attention then I am glad he will now be getting some attention/help.
It's wonderful that most of you are strong and healthy mentally. Not all people are so blessed.
There are people who truly think that the world would be a better place without them in it. To me that is so sad.
Would some of you be the ones standing at the bottom of a building yelling for a person on the ledge to "jump"?
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes, suec- it is very sad when someone thinks that their life is that worthless and that the world would be a better place without them. And unless you go through that, or know someone who does, you cannot possibly begin to fathom that. I hate to admit it, but I used to be one who would say, If some damn fool wants to kill himself, then let him. But I have some insight into that now, and I no longer feel that way. But I'm not gonna beat someone up whose opinion is different that mine. There is no such thing as a wrong opinion.
Posted by SCNightHawk on August 6, 2008 at 1:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Lucy, I adopted that same theory years ago and I have been an extremely happy person ever since. Whenever I'm faced with a bad day or a difficult situation I sit and think usually for just a moment and can name any number of my friends or aquaintances who have a far heavier burder to bear that I. There are some extremely good folks who post here daily and I am glad to share ideas and opinions with them. There are others who merely name call and belittle. I wish they had another outlet for their anger and agression.
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sue maybe you should reread all the comments made you will see that most on here have mentioned they at one time or other have had depression. Maybe not so strong to think about suicide but close. And yes there are one or two who have had put in a mean comment. In the beginning of the post. I try to read all the opinions myself before I put a rebuttal in here. I am truly sorry you are offended by the opinions of some in here but they are opinions just like yours.
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think it has been established from the time we spent here posting with each other that NOT ONE of us is mentally stable! Some are less stable than others. But we do have a lot of fun at it!
Forget, just remember that you did have that wonderful vacation!
Posted by SeaSaw on August 6, 2008 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ChasCarolinaGirl,
You are absolutely right! Suicide is the last selfish act. My only sister killed herself when she was 15 years old. That was over 30 years ago. Her father always blamed himself, and I still blame our mother. I will never get to have any nieces or nephews, and my children never got to have an aunt. I could go on all day about all the other victims she left behind. Although it was a selfish act, she did have very good reasons. That is why I will never forget the things my mother did to her. She was living a life of hell and no one came to her rescue. She too may have been making a cry for help when she took the pills. I'm sure she thought that someone was going to find her before the pills kicked in.
Thank you again Detective Thomas Rivers for answering this man's cry for help.
Posted by ms_lady2u on August 6, 2008 at 8:05 a.m.
He probably ran out of gas on his way to meet his maker!!
LOL! That was a good one ms_lady2u.
Posted by suec on August 6, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I respect anyone's right to an opinion but I have no respect for some who are downright mean and cruel.
It is pretty presumptuous for anyone to assume that they know what is going on in another persons mind, in their life, and what is in their past.
Most people who do finally commit suicide, have attempted it numerous times.
Posted by lucy_fan on August 6, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hawk- Yes, I try to do the same as well. Things can always be worse. And I was very fortunate to meet 4 wonderful ladies from this board, and look forward to seeing what comments they have to make on these stories. Sometimes they give me a different take on things that I hadn't thought of myself. I may not always agree with their opinions, but I do not resort to name calling, and I certainly don't let the posts of others, whose opinions are completely different than mine, get my panties all in a knot.
Posted by FortDorchesterMom on August 6, 2008 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Gadsen said"I don't think this guy ever had any intention of jumping - only attention whoring. If he was really considering it, he'd have used another outlet for help"
What are you babbling about???!!! Are you his therapist..or wait..are you a psychic? You should call the cops and tell them where the nut-job that shot the deputy is...since you know everything!
You crack me up with your opinion that if he really meant to do it, that he would use a different outlet...oooohhh. Like what? Maybe he wasn't aware that there was another outlet...you should call the hospital immediately and let him know just exactly what he should do. Tell him that in your opinion he is just an "attention whore",and that you think that he should have either jumped, to save the tax payers some money, or at least have been considerate enough to do it somewhere/somehow else...so as not to inconvenience you!!
Not an ounce of compassion for your fellow man.
Posted by SCNightHawk on August 6, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm with you Lucy- However, I will never forgive Gadsden and Early for bashing my beloved "Canoe". It was at least in my mind a real chic magnet back in the day....LOL
Posted by Rebel_Yell on August 6, 2008 at 1:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Weeeeee -- stop eating so much fast food. Chubby
Posted by Lovely_One on August 6, 2008 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It's funny how the posters that say other posters jump all over the posters that have opinions that differ from their own are the same posters that go through and pick out all the posters' posts that have different opinions from their own and jump all over them And now I have thoroughly confused myself so I will take a seat in the nearest corner and give my unstable mind a rest.
Posted by grannyofsix on August 6, 2008 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
my head is spinning what did you just post Lovely . and are we having another preggie moment Still love you